{"id":19977,"date":"2012-04-17T10:28:52","date_gmt":"2012-04-17T09:28:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tribur.de\/blog\/?p=19977"},"modified":"2012-04-17T10:30:21","modified_gmt":"2012-04-17T09:30:21","slug":"gockel-zum-lorscher-reichsurbar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tribur.de\/blog\/2012\/04\/17\/gockel-zum-lorscher-reichsurbar\/","title":{"rendered":"Gockel zum Lorscher Reichsurbar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bei der Suche zu Infos zu Demandt stie\u00df ich dann auf Gockels Anmerkung zum Lorscher Reichsurbar. \u00dcber den Eintrag Treburs im Lorscher Reichsurbar und dessen Vermischung habe ich bereits geschrieben (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tribur.de\/blog\/?p=6825\">hier <\/a>und <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tribur.de\/blog\/?p=16806\">hier<\/a>) .\u00dcber seine Entstehung, gibt es viele Theorien.<\/p>\n<p>Um das kurz in Erinnerung zu rufen: In dem Eintrag sind die Vermerke von Trebur und Frankfurt vermischt, d.h. die Aufz\u00e4hlung der G\u00fcter beginnt bei Trebur, wechselt in der Mitte nach Frankfurt und schwenkt dann zur\u00fcck auf Treburer G\u00fcter. Die mittlerweile\u00a0g\u00e4ngigste\u00a0These ist, dass bei der Abschrift im Hochmittelalter einfach Papiere durcheinander kamen.<\/p>\n<p>Metz vermutete in &#8222;Reichsgut&#8220; \u00a0generell ein \u00a0\u00fcbergreifendes <em>ministerium\u00a0<\/em>das\u00a0<em>\u00a0fisci<\/em>\u00a0von Worms bis Frankfurt, entlang einer langestreckten Handelsroute, \u00a0zentral verwaltete. Bereits Schalles Fischer hatte dies in &#8222;Pfalz und Fiskus \u00a0Frankfurt&#8220; in weiten Teilen wiederlegt.<br \/>\nGockel schrieb nun das dies lediglich , eben durch den vermischten Eintrag im Urbar, denkbar sei. Fast ironisch merkt er dazu an , dass wenn man die Quelle w\u00f6rtlich n\u00e4hme nicht Frankfurt, sondern Trebur (weil als erstes genannt) der zentrale Sitz des Ministeriums gewesen sein m\u00fcsse. Als i-T\u00fcpfelchen vermerkt er dann in den Fu\u00dfnoten, dass sich Frau Schalles Fischer &#8222;sich dieser Deutung des Reichsurbars nicht glaubt anschlie\u00dfen zu k\u00f6nnen&#8220; (S. 209)<\/p>\n<p>Letztendlich kommt aber Gockel zum Schluss, das bei einer unvoreingenommener Betrachtung ein \u00fcbergreifendes <em>ministerium<\/em>\u00a0im Fall Frankfurt\/Trebur nicht existierte.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bei der Suche zu Infos zu Demandt stie\u00df ich dann auf Gockels Anmerkung zum Lorscher Reichsurbar. \u00dcber den Eintrag Treburs im Lorscher Reichsurbar und dessen Vermischung habe ich bereits geschrieben (hier und hier) .\u00dcber&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[35,49,16],"class_list":["post-19977","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-geschichte","tag-pfalz","tag-recherche","tag-trebur"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - 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